Just got this book today
http://astore.amazon.com/jas5-20/detail/1853675512
Will come back with review when I have read it.
Dog-fight
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J5_Voss
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I'm halfway through it and there is some strange English in it for a noted historian....
So far I haven't learned anything new yet.
So far I haven't learned anything new yet.
*I do not master the subtleties of an anglo native speaker. If you can't handle that, try addressing me in my own mothertongue.
*I have a peculiar sense of humour. That's just the way it is. Please notice the emoticons.
*See you in Bwa-troa-koor !
*I have a peculiar sense of humour. That's just the way it is. Please notice the emoticons.
*See you in Bwa-troa-koor !
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J5_Voss
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Are you asking me to publish copyrighted content online ? Have you any idea what's coming when Herr Berr and/or Herr Bäumer find out ?
Attend practice and you will learn a lot more than there is in the book, trust me.
Attend practice and you will learn a lot more than there is in the book, trust me.
*I do not master the subtleties of an anglo native speaker. If you can't handle that, try addressing me in my own mothertongue.
*I have a peculiar sense of humour. That's just the way it is. Please notice the emoticons.
*See you in Bwa-troa-koor !
*I have a peculiar sense of humour. That's just the way it is. Please notice the emoticons.
*See you in Bwa-troa-koor !
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Re: Dog-fight
I have been meaning to comment on this as I finished this book about 3 months or so ago. Good book, but I'm not exactly impressed with Mr. Franks editing abilitites. Topics recur throughout the book that would have been much better consolidated into one section or chapter. Instead you end up thinking, "Hey, didn't I already read about this?!" Also, he, tends to be a little heavy on the allied stories, but this is forgivable since he makes the effort to include stories from the central side, and admittedly had greater access to the entente pilots.
Still, I raced through the book, which is not short, and found the book enlightening on several different points:
The training program for pilots and observers (Jasta 5 training is generally modeled after this historically). There are generally three main stages to training but pilots were usually routed first through observer/two seater training and had to have combat experience in two seaters before going into single seater fighter training (this is how J5 training was in the RB3D days).
There were different approaches to the attack for central Jasta's. Some would put the expert at the "tip of the spear" so to speak, giving them first crack, while others backed them up. Other well known aces would do the opposite, putting up and coming experienced pilots (not brand new ones!)at the front of the attack while backing them up thus developing in those other pilots the experience and building their confidence. In the end it usually ended up in everyone for themselves with the best results coming when pilots still tried to help each other out.
There is information about formations flown and a confirmation about how we currently fly much of the time in RoF. Defensive sweeps on our side of the mud taking the winds and flak to our advantage.
There are a lot of other odds and ends. A good read, worth the time, if you can keep everything organized in your mind as you go through it.
http://astore.amazon.com/jas5-20/detail ... 86-9957304
Still, I raced through the book, which is not short, and found the book enlightening on several different points:
The training program for pilots and observers (Jasta 5 training is generally modeled after this historically). There are generally three main stages to training but pilots were usually routed first through observer/two seater training and had to have combat experience in two seaters before going into single seater fighter training (this is how J5 training was in the RB3D days).
There were different approaches to the attack for central Jasta's. Some would put the expert at the "tip of the spear" so to speak, giving them first crack, while others backed them up. Other well known aces would do the opposite, putting up and coming experienced pilots (not brand new ones!)at the front of the attack while backing them up thus developing in those other pilots the experience and building their confidence. In the end it usually ended up in everyone for themselves with the best results coming when pilots still tried to help each other out.
There is information about formations flown and a confirmation about how we currently fly much of the time in RoF. Defensive sweeps on our side of the mud taking the winds and flak to our advantage.
There are a lot of other odds and ends. A good read, worth the time, if you can keep everything organized in your mind as you go through it.
http://astore.amazon.com/jas5-20/detail ... 86-9957304
Prosit!
